Logical equivalence of ¬p→q









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Just wondering what other ways $neg p to q$ can be expressed.



I know that $pto q$ is logically equivalent to $neg plor q$, hence I think that $neg pto q$ has the same logical equivalence as $plor q$.










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    Just wondering what other ways $neg p to q$ can be expressed.



    I know that $pto q$ is logically equivalent to $neg plor q$, hence I think that $neg pto q$ has the same logical equivalence as $plor q$.










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      Just wondering what other ways $neg p to q$ can be expressed.



      I know that $pto q$ is logically equivalent to $neg plor q$, hence I think that $neg pto q$ has the same logical equivalence as $plor q$.










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      Just wondering what other ways $neg p to q$ can be expressed.



      I know that $pto q$ is logically equivalent to $neg plor q$, hence I think that $neg pto q$ has the same logical equivalence as $plor q$.







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          As others have pointed out, truth tables will confirm the equivalence of $neg p to q$ and $p lor q$.



          But also you'll get additional insight by thinking informally. Suppose you are given that either $p$ or $q$. Then, if you rule out $p$, then you are left with $q$. So, in symbols, from $p lor q$ you can infer $neg p to q$.



          Conversely, suppose you are given that if not-$p$ then $q$. Then assuming you accept excluded middle, the principle that either $p$ or not $p$, it follows that either $p$ or (using that conditional) $q$. So, in symbols, from $neg p to q$ you can infer $p lor q$.






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          You have pretty much given the answer yourself already. Logical equivalence of $p$ and $q$ is given if $p$ is true if and only if $q$ is true (and hence $p$ is false iff $q$ is false). Since $p$ and $q$ can only be true or false, you can use truth tables and check whether logical equivalence is given. From there you can derive permissible manipulations of propositions.



          In this case, $(lnot p) rightarrow q equiv lnot(lnot p) lor q equiv p lor q$, as you stated correctly.






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            As you said, $pRightarrow q$ is logically equivalent to $neg pvee q$.
            Then by double negation, $neg p Rightarrow q$ is logically equivalent to $neg(neg p)vee q$, which amounts to $pvee q$.






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              As others have pointed out, truth tables will confirm the equivalence of $neg p to q$ and $p lor q$.



              But also you'll get additional insight by thinking informally. Suppose you are given that either $p$ or $q$. Then, if you rule out $p$, then you are left with $q$. So, in symbols, from $p lor q$ you can infer $neg p to q$.



              Conversely, suppose you are given that if not-$p$ then $q$. Then assuming you accept excluded middle, the principle that either $p$ or not $p$, it follows that either $p$ or (using that conditional) $q$. So, in symbols, from $neg p to q$ you can infer $p lor q$.






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              • Thanks for confirming!
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              As others have pointed out, truth tables will confirm the equivalence of $neg p to q$ and $p lor q$.



              But also you'll get additional insight by thinking informally. Suppose you are given that either $p$ or $q$. Then, if you rule out $p$, then you are left with $q$. So, in symbols, from $p lor q$ you can infer $neg p to q$.



              Conversely, suppose you are given that if not-$p$ then $q$. Then assuming you accept excluded middle, the principle that either $p$ or not $p$, it follows that either $p$ or (using that conditional) $q$. So, in symbols, from $neg p to q$ you can infer $p lor q$.






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              • Thanks for confirming!
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              As others have pointed out, truth tables will confirm the equivalence of $neg p to q$ and $p lor q$.



              But also you'll get additional insight by thinking informally. Suppose you are given that either $p$ or $q$. Then, if you rule out $p$, then you are left with $q$. So, in symbols, from $p lor q$ you can infer $neg p to q$.



              Conversely, suppose you are given that if not-$p$ then $q$. Then assuming you accept excluded middle, the principle that either $p$ or not $p$, it follows that either $p$ or (using that conditional) $q$. So, in symbols, from $neg p to q$ you can infer $p lor q$.






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              As others have pointed out, truth tables will confirm the equivalence of $neg p to q$ and $p lor q$.



              But also you'll get additional insight by thinking informally. Suppose you are given that either $p$ or $q$. Then, if you rule out $p$, then you are left with $q$. So, in symbols, from $p lor q$ you can infer $neg p to q$.



              Conversely, suppose you are given that if not-$p$ then $q$. Then assuming you accept excluded middle, the principle that either $p$ or not $p$, it follows that either $p$ or (using that conditional) $q$. So, in symbols, from $neg p to q$ you can infer $p lor q$.







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              answered Nov 11 at 8:49









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              You have pretty much given the answer yourself already. Logical equivalence of $p$ and $q$ is given if $p$ is true if and only if $q$ is true (and hence $p$ is false iff $q$ is false). Since $p$ and $q$ can only be true or false, you can use truth tables and check whether logical equivalence is given. From there you can derive permissible manipulations of propositions.



              In this case, $(lnot p) rightarrow q equiv lnot(lnot p) lor q equiv p lor q$, as you stated correctly.






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                You have pretty much given the answer yourself already. Logical equivalence of $p$ and $q$ is given if $p$ is true if and only if $q$ is true (and hence $p$ is false iff $q$ is false). Since $p$ and $q$ can only be true or false, you can use truth tables and check whether logical equivalence is given. From there you can derive permissible manipulations of propositions.



                In this case, $(lnot p) rightarrow q equiv lnot(lnot p) lor q equiv p lor q$, as you stated correctly.






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                  You have pretty much given the answer yourself already. Logical equivalence of $p$ and $q$ is given if $p$ is true if and only if $q$ is true (and hence $p$ is false iff $q$ is false). Since $p$ and $q$ can only be true or false, you can use truth tables and check whether logical equivalence is given. From there you can derive permissible manipulations of propositions.



                  In this case, $(lnot p) rightarrow q equiv lnot(lnot p) lor q equiv p lor q$, as you stated correctly.






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                  You have pretty much given the answer yourself already. Logical equivalence of $p$ and $q$ is given if $p$ is true if and only if $q$ is true (and hence $p$ is false iff $q$ is false). Since $p$ and $q$ can only be true or false, you can use truth tables and check whether logical equivalence is given. From there you can derive permissible manipulations of propositions.



                  In this case, $(lnot p) rightarrow q equiv lnot(lnot p) lor q equiv p lor q$, as you stated correctly.







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                      As you said, $pRightarrow q$ is logically equivalent to $neg pvee q$.
                      Then by double negation, $neg p Rightarrow q$ is logically equivalent to $neg(neg p)vee q$, which amounts to $pvee q$.






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                        As you said, $pRightarrow q$ is logically equivalent to $neg pvee q$.
                        Then by double negation, $neg p Rightarrow q$ is logically equivalent to $neg(neg p)vee q$, which amounts to $pvee q$.






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                          As you said, $pRightarrow q$ is logically equivalent to $neg pvee q$.
                          Then by double negation, $neg p Rightarrow q$ is logically equivalent to $neg(neg p)vee q$, which amounts to $pvee q$.






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                          As you said, $pRightarrow q$ is logically equivalent to $neg pvee q$.
                          Then by double negation, $neg p Rightarrow q$ is logically equivalent to $neg(neg p)vee q$, which amounts to $pvee q$.







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