qt creator 5.10 failed to retrieve msvc environment error
i just installed qt creator 5.10 and i opened a simple widget application this is the error that i get even without running the application
:-1: error: Failed to retrieve MSVC Environment from "D:pograml filesvisual studio2VCAuxiliaryBuildvcvarsall.bat":
'chcp' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
'wmic' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
i haven't found any solutions for this, if anyone could help me i would be very thankful
c++ visual-studio qt visual-c++ qt-creator
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i just installed qt creator 5.10 and i opened a simple widget application this is the error that i get even without running the application
:-1: error: Failed to retrieve MSVC Environment from "D:pograml filesvisual studio2VCAuxiliaryBuildvcvarsall.bat":
'chcp' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
'wmic' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
i haven't found any solutions for this, if anyone could help me i would be very thankful
c++ visual-studio qt visual-c++ qt-creator
Read this post forum.qt.io/post/392085 It is actual, although is for Qt 5.9.
– S.M.
Feb 24 '18 at 7:08
"D:pograml files..."
- Typo? I would check whether thisvcvarsall.bat
can be found at the noted location. Probably the error is - it cannot.vcvarsall.bat
is a batch file which sets some env. variables to support using MSVC on command line. (Qt creator probably uses it for simple location of MS build tools.)
– Scheff
Feb 24 '18 at 7:16
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i just installed qt creator 5.10 and i opened a simple widget application this is the error that i get even without running the application
:-1: error: Failed to retrieve MSVC Environment from "D:pograml filesvisual studio2VCAuxiliaryBuildvcvarsall.bat":
'chcp' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
'wmic' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
i haven't found any solutions for this, if anyone could help me i would be very thankful
c++ visual-studio qt visual-c++ qt-creator
i just installed qt creator 5.10 and i opened a simple widget application this is the error that i get even without running the application
:-1: error: Failed to retrieve MSVC Environment from "D:pograml filesvisual studio2VCAuxiliaryBuildvcvarsall.bat":
'chcp' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
'wmic' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
i haven't found any solutions for this, if anyone could help me i would be very thankful
c++ visual-studio qt visual-c++ qt-creator
c++ visual-studio qt visual-c++ qt-creator
asked Feb 24 '18 at 6:33
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Read this post forum.qt.io/post/392085 It is actual, although is for Qt 5.9.
– S.M.
Feb 24 '18 at 7:08
"D:pograml files..."
- Typo? I would check whether thisvcvarsall.bat
can be found at the noted location. Probably the error is - it cannot.vcvarsall.bat
is a batch file which sets some env. variables to support using MSVC on command line. (Qt creator probably uses it for simple location of MS build tools.)
– Scheff
Feb 24 '18 at 7:16
add a comment |
Read this post forum.qt.io/post/392085 It is actual, although is for Qt 5.9.
– S.M.
Feb 24 '18 at 7:08
"D:pograml files..."
- Typo? I would check whether thisvcvarsall.bat
can be found at the noted location. Probably the error is - it cannot.vcvarsall.bat
is a batch file which sets some env. variables to support using MSVC on command line. (Qt creator probably uses it for simple location of MS build tools.)
– Scheff
Feb 24 '18 at 7:16
Read this post forum.qt.io/post/392085 It is actual, although is for Qt 5.9.
– S.M.
Feb 24 '18 at 7:08
Read this post forum.qt.io/post/392085 It is actual, although is for Qt 5.9.
– S.M.
Feb 24 '18 at 7:08
"D:pograml files..."
- Typo? I would check whether this vcvarsall.bat
can be found at the noted location. Probably the error is - it cannot. vcvarsall.bat
is a batch file which sets some env. variables to support using MSVC on command line. (Qt creator probably uses it for simple location of MS build tools.)– Scheff
Feb 24 '18 at 7:16
"D:pograml files..."
- Typo? I would check whether this vcvarsall.bat
can be found at the noted location. Probably the error is - it cannot. vcvarsall.bat
is a batch file which sets some env. variables to support using MSVC on command line. (Qt creator probably uses it for simple location of MS build tools.)– Scheff
Feb 24 '18 at 7:16
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To add to the answer of @John Wesley, I too had to alter my system's PATH enviroment variable to fix the "failed to retrieve msvc environment" error. However, my problem was slightly different.
In short, remove any unused locations from you PATH.
To explain, my PATH contained the follow entries in the following order:
C:Program Files (x86)Common FilesOracleJavajavapath;
C:ProgramDataOracleJavajavapath;
C:Program Files (x86)InteliCLS Client;
C:Program FilesInteliCLS Client;
C:Windowssystem32;
C:Windows;
C:WindowsSystem32Wbem;
[lots more enties followed...]
Hence my case was different to John's because it already had the required entries of:
C:Windowssystem32;
C:Windows;
C:WindowsSystem32Wbem;
The fix for my system was to delete the first two items (which I do not need because I manually set my Java paths). After I did that, I reopened Qt Creator and it worked!
It has been working for the past week without problem, however, sometimes the message "failed to retrieve msvc environment" still pops up for a moment, but then disappears again.
So whats the relation of the PATH entries to the problem? which entries in my case could be causing such issue?!
– Mohammad Kanan
Sep 15 '18 at 6:54
1
@MohammadKanan I don't know for certain without knowing what is on your PATH. I can confirm that the above fix is still working weeks later. I don't know exactly why, but simplifying your PATH is a good first step to diagnose the problem.
– Andrew Bate
Sep 19 '18 at 23:21
add a comment |
I met this error building qt project in Qt Creator. then solved by adding some paths to my system path, which not included them before.
- C:WindowsSystem32
- C:Windows
- C:WindowsSystem32Wbem
Then reopen Qt Creator.
add a comment |
When Qt starts, I used to get a list of 10 errors related to MSVC kit because each detected MSVC platform compiler has an Initialization script for setting environment. like:
C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft Visual Studio2017CommunityVCAuxiliaryBuildvcvarsall.bat x86_amd64
I traced the failure by running all Initialization
one by one on same command line (cmd) window; In the beginning I used to run only Initialization
for x86_amd64
which runs without errors thus I didn't notice anything wrong. But on same window running Initialization
for next compiler " ...vcvarsall.bat x86_amd64
" the error appeared which in my case was something like:
" ..program FilesMySQLUtilities xxx was not expected at this time"
I just checked and found that path does not exist at all in my storage, so I removed it from PATH
system env settings, and surprised things went normal after that!
add a comment |
I faced the same problem as you. I use Visual Studio 2017 Community Edition with Qt 5.6.0. Windows 10.
In the beginning, I used "Visual Studio Installer" to repair. However it does not work.
Then I append "C:WindowsSystem32" to "PATH" variable to Environment variables" since chcp is a exe in System3 and somehow I cannot find "C:WindowsSystem32" in "PATH".
After that, I delete the Visual Studio (C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft Visual Studio) directly from File Explorer. ( I shift+deleted it )
Then re-install the "Visual Studio 2017" again.
It works!
I do not know which step is important. I think to add System32 to PATH variable and re-install VS2017 may the solution
add a comment |
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To add to the answer of @John Wesley, I too had to alter my system's PATH enviroment variable to fix the "failed to retrieve msvc environment" error. However, my problem was slightly different.
In short, remove any unused locations from you PATH.
To explain, my PATH contained the follow entries in the following order:
C:Program Files (x86)Common FilesOracleJavajavapath;
C:ProgramDataOracleJavajavapath;
C:Program Files (x86)InteliCLS Client;
C:Program FilesInteliCLS Client;
C:Windowssystem32;
C:Windows;
C:WindowsSystem32Wbem;
[lots more enties followed...]
Hence my case was different to John's because it already had the required entries of:
C:Windowssystem32;
C:Windows;
C:WindowsSystem32Wbem;
The fix for my system was to delete the first two items (which I do not need because I manually set my Java paths). After I did that, I reopened Qt Creator and it worked!
It has been working for the past week without problem, however, sometimes the message "failed to retrieve msvc environment" still pops up for a moment, but then disappears again.
So whats the relation of the PATH entries to the problem? which entries in my case could be causing such issue?!
– Mohammad Kanan
Sep 15 '18 at 6:54
1
@MohammadKanan I don't know for certain without knowing what is on your PATH. I can confirm that the above fix is still working weeks later. I don't know exactly why, but simplifying your PATH is a good first step to diagnose the problem.
– Andrew Bate
Sep 19 '18 at 23:21
add a comment |
To add to the answer of @John Wesley, I too had to alter my system's PATH enviroment variable to fix the "failed to retrieve msvc environment" error. However, my problem was slightly different.
In short, remove any unused locations from you PATH.
To explain, my PATH contained the follow entries in the following order:
C:Program Files (x86)Common FilesOracleJavajavapath;
C:ProgramDataOracleJavajavapath;
C:Program Files (x86)InteliCLS Client;
C:Program FilesInteliCLS Client;
C:Windowssystem32;
C:Windows;
C:WindowsSystem32Wbem;
[lots more enties followed...]
Hence my case was different to John's because it already had the required entries of:
C:Windowssystem32;
C:Windows;
C:WindowsSystem32Wbem;
The fix for my system was to delete the first two items (which I do not need because I manually set my Java paths). After I did that, I reopened Qt Creator and it worked!
It has been working for the past week without problem, however, sometimes the message "failed to retrieve msvc environment" still pops up for a moment, but then disappears again.
So whats the relation of the PATH entries to the problem? which entries in my case could be causing such issue?!
– Mohammad Kanan
Sep 15 '18 at 6:54
1
@MohammadKanan I don't know for certain without knowing what is on your PATH. I can confirm that the above fix is still working weeks later. I don't know exactly why, but simplifying your PATH is a good first step to diagnose the problem.
– Andrew Bate
Sep 19 '18 at 23:21
add a comment |
To add to the answer of @John Wesley, I too had to alter my system's PATH enviroment variable to fix the "failed to retrieve msvc environment" error. However, my problem was slightly different.
In short, remove any unused locations from you PATH.
To explain, my PATH contained the follow entries in the following order:
C:Program Files (x86)Common FilesOracleJavajavapath;
C:ProgramDataOracleJavajavapath;
C:Program Files (x86)InteliCLS Client;
C:Program FilesInteliCLS Client;
C:Windowssystem32;
C:Windows;
C:WindowsSystem32Wbem;
[lots more enties followed...]
Hence my case was different to John's because it already had the required entries of:
C:Windowssystem32;
C:Windows;
C:WindowsSystem32Wbem;
The fix for my system was to delete the first two items (which I do not need because I manually set my Java paths). After I did that, I reopened Qt Creator and it worked!
It has been working for the past week without problem, however, sometimes the message "failed to retrieve msvc environment" still pops up for a moment, but then disappears again.
To add to the answer of @John Wesley, I too had to alter my system's PATH enviroment variable to fix the "failed to retrieve msvc environment" error. However, my problem was slightly different.
In short, remove any unused locations from you PATH.
To explain, my PATH contained the follow entries in the following order:
C:Program Files (x86)Common FilesOracleJavajavapath;
C:ProgramDataOracleJavajavapath;
C:Program Files (x86)InteliCLS Client;
C:Program FilesInteliCLS Client;
C:Windowssystem32;
C:Windows;
C:WindowsSystem32Wbem;
[lots more enties followed...]
Hence my case was different to John's because it already had the required entries of:
C:Windowssystem32;
C:Windows;
C:WindowsSystem32Wbem;
The fix for my system was to delete the first two items (which I do not need because I manually set my Java paths). After I did that, I reopened Qt Creator and it worked!
It has been working for the past week without problem, however, sometimes the message "failed to retrieve msvc environment" still pops up for a moment, but then disappears again.
answered Aug 2 '18 at 16:25
Andrew BateAndrew Bate
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So whats the relation of the PATH entries to the problem? which entries in my case could be causing such issue?!
– Mohammad Kanan
Sep 15 '18 at 6:54
1
@MohammadKanan I don't know for certain without knowing what is on your PATH. I can confirm that the above fix is still working weeks later. I don't know exactly why, but simplifying your PATH is a good first step to diagnose the problem.
– Andrew Bate
Sep 19 '18 at 23:21
add a comment |
So whats the relation of the PATH entries to the problem? which entries in my case could be causing such issue?!
– Mohammad Kanan
Sep 15 '18 at 6:54
1
@MohammadKanan I don't know for certain without knowing what is on your PATH. I can confirm that the above fix is still working weeks later. I don't know exactly why, but simplifying your PATH is a good first step to diagnose the problem.
– Andrew Bate
Sep 19 '18 at 23:21
So whats the relation of the PATH entries to the problem? which entries in my case could be causing such issue?!
– Mohammad Kanan
Sep 15 '18 at 6:54
So whats the relation of the PATH entries to the problem? which entries in my case could be causing such issue?!
– Mohammad Kanan
Sep 15 '18 at 6:54
1
1
@MohammadKanan I don't know for certain without knowing what is on your PATH. I can confirm that the above fix is still working weeks later. I don't know exactly why, but simplifying your PATH is a good first step to diagnose the problem.
– Andrew Bate
Sep 19 '18 at 23:21
@MohammadKanan I don't know for certain without knowing what is on your PATH. I can confirm that the above fix is still working weeks later. I don't know exactly why, but simplifying your PATH is a good first step to diagnose the problem.
– Andrew Bate
Sep 19 '18 at 23:21
add a comment |
I met this error building qt project in Qt Creator. then solved by adding some paths to my system path, which not included them before.
- C:WindowsSystem32
- C:Windows
- C:WindowsSystem32Wbem
Then reopen Qt Creator.
add a comment |
I met this error building qt project in Qt Creator. then solved by adding some paths to my system path, which not included them before.
- C:WindowsSystem32
- C:Windows
- C:WindowsSystem32Wbem
Then reopen Qt Creator.
add a comment |
I met this error building qt project in Qt Creator. then solved by adding some paths to my system path, which not included them before.
- C:WindowsSystem32
- C:Windows
- C:WindowsSystem32Wbem
Then reopen Qt Creator.
I met this error building qt project in Qt Creator. then solved by adding some paths to my system path, which not included them before.
- C:WindowsSystem32
- C:Windows
- C:WindowsSystem32Wbem
Then reopen Qt Creator.
edited Apr 19 '18 at 13:43
Stephen Rauch
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answered Apr 19 '18 at 13:23
John WesleyJohn Wesley
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When Qt starts, I used to get a list of 10 errors related to MSVC kit because each detected MSVC platform compiler has an Initialization script for setting environment. like:
C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft Visual Studio2017CommunityVCAuxiliaryBuildvcvarsall.bat x86_amd64
I traced the failure by running all Initialization
one by one on same command line (cmd) window; In the beginning I used to run only Initialization
for x86_amd64
which runs without errors thus I didn't notice anything wrong. But on same window running Initialization
for next compiler " ...vcvarsall.bat x86_amd64
" the error appeared which in my case was something like:
" ..program FilesMySQLUtilities xxx was not expected at this time"
I just checked and found that path does not exist at all in my storage, so I removed it from PATH
system env settings, and surprised things went normal after that!
add a comment |
When Qt starts, I used to get a list of 10 errors related to MSVC kit because each detected MSVC platform compiler has an Initialization script for setting environment. like:
C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft Visual Studio2017CommunityVCAuxiliaryBuildvcvarsall.bat x86_amd64
I traced the failure by running all Initialization
one by one on same command line (cmd) window; In the beginning I used to run only Initialization
for x86_amd64
which runs without errors thus I didn't notice anything wrong. But on same window running Initialization
for next compiler " ...vcvarsall.bat x86_amd64
" the error appeared which in my case was something like:
" ..program FilesMySQLUtilities xxx was not expected at this time"
I just checked and found that path does not exist at all in my storage, so I removed it from PATH
system env settings, and surprised things went normal after that!
add a comment |
When Qt starts, I used to get a list of 10 errors related to MSVC kit because each detected MSVC platform compiler has an Initialization script for setting environment. like:
C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft Visual Studio2017CommunityVCAuxiliaryBuildvcvarsall.bat x86_amd64
I traced the failure by running all Initialization
one by one on same command line (cmd) window; In the beginning I used to run only Initialization
for x86_amd64
which runs without errors thus I didn't notice anything wrong. But on same window running Initialization
for next compiler " ...vcvarsall.bat x86_amd64
" the error appeared which in my case was something like:
" ..program FilesMySQLUtilities xxx was not expected at this time"
I just checked and found that path does not exist at all in my storage, so I removed it from PATH
system env settings, and surprised things went normal after that!
When Qt starts, I used to get a list of 10 errors related to MSVC kit because each detected MSVC platform compiler has an Initialization script for setting environment. like:
C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft Visual Studio2017CommunityVCAuxiliaryBuildvcvarsall.bat x86_amd64
I traced the failure by running all Initialization
one by one on same command line (cmd) window; In the beginning I used to run only Initialization
for x86_amd64
which runs without errors thus I didn't notice anything wrong. But on same window running Initialization
for next compiler " ...vcvarsall.bat x86_amd64
" the error appeared which in my case was something like:
" ..program FilesMySQLUtilities xxx was not expected at this time"
I just checked and found that path does not exist at all in my storage, so I removed it from PATH
system env settings, and surprised things went normal after that!
answered Sep 20 '18 at 13:00
Mohammad KananMohammad Kanan
2,724101528
2,724101528
add a comment |
add a comment |
I faced the same problem as you. I use Visual Studio 2017 Community Edition with Qt 5.6.0. Windows 10.
In the beginning, I used "Visual Studio Installer" to repair. However it does not work.
Then I append "C:WindowsSystem32" to "PATH" variable to Environment variables" since chcp is a exe in System3 and somehow I cannot find "C:WindowsSystem32" in "PATH".
After that, I delete the Visual Studio (C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft Visual Studio) directly from File Explorer. ( I shift+deleted it )
Then re-install the "Visual Studio 2017" again.
It works!
I do not know which step is important. I think to add System32 to PATH variable and re-install VS2017 may the solution
add a comment |
I faced the same problem as you. I use Visual Studio 2017 Community Edition with Qt 5.6.0. Windows 10.
In the beginning, I used "Visual Studio Installer" to repair. However it does not work.
Then I append "C:WindowsSystem32" to "PATH" variable to Environment variables" since chcp is a exe in System3 and somehow I cannot find "C:WindowsSystem32" in "PATH".
After that, I delete the Visual Studio (C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft Visual Studio) directly from File Explorer. ( I shift+deleted it )
Then re-install the "Visual Studio 2017" again.
It works!
I do not know which step is important. I think to add System32 to PATH variable and re-install VS2017 may the solution
add a comment |
I faced the same problem as you. I use Visual Studio 2017 Community Edition with Qt 5.6.0. Windows 10.
In the beginning, I used "Visual Studio Installer" to repair. However it does not work.
Then I append "C:WindowsSystem32" to "PATH" variable to Environment variables" since chcp is a exe in System3 and somehow I cannot find "C:WindowsSystem32" in "PATH".
After that, I delete the Visual Studio (C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft Visual Studio) directly from File Explorer. ( I shift+deleted it )
Then re-install the "Visual Studio 2017" again.
It works!
I do not know which step is important. I think to add System32 to PATH variable and re-install VS2017 may the solution
I faced the same problem as you. I use Visual Studio 2017 Community Edition with Qt 5.6.0. Windows 10.
In the beginning, I used "Visual Studio Installer" to repair. However it does not work.
Then I append "C:WindowsSystem32" to "PATH" variable to Environment variables" since chcp is a exe in System3 and somehow I cannot find "C:WindowsSystem32" in "PATH".
After that, I delete the Visual Studio (C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft Visual Studio) directly from File Explorer. ( I shift+deleted it )
Then re-install the "Visual Studio 2017" again.
It works!
I do not know which step is important. I think to add System32 to PATH variable and re-install VS2017 may the solution
answered Oct 11 '18 at 3:32
MooMooMooMoo
194212
194212
add a comment |
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Read this post forum.qt.io/post/392085 It is actual, although is for Qt 5.9.
– S.M.
Feb 24 '18 at 7:08
"D:pograml files..."
- Typo? I would check whether thisvcvarsall.bat
can be found at the noted location. Probably the error is - it cannot.vcvarsall.bat
is a batch file which sets some env. variables to support using MSVC on command line. (Qt creator probably uses it for simple location of MS build tools.)– Scheff
Feb 24 '18 at 7:16