CSS positioning 2 shifted columns










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first of all is there a good tutorial about positioning elements which really explains what's going on? I've read multiple but can't get a grip on it.



the specific problem I have is as follows:



I have a header div-element (in red) with underneath 2 columns(white and green). Normally with float:left; i can position the elements next to each-other. But now I want one (the white one) to move a bit over the header als shown.



with relative positioning with a negative top value I can get the white one at the right position but how to position the second column. When adjusting the browser size it al gets messed up.



#Column1

float: left;
position: relative;
top: -140px;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
left: 70px;
width: 280px;
min-height: 500px;
padding: 10px;


#Column2

float: left;
width: 800px;
background-color: #00FF00;



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first of all is there a good tutorial about positioning elements which really explains what's going on? I've read multiple but can't get a grip on it.



the specific problem I have is as follows:



I have a header div-element (in red) with underneath 2 columns(white and green). Normally with float:left; i can position the elements next to each-other. But now I want one (the white one) to move a bit over the header als shown.



with relative positioning with a negative top value I can get the white one at the right position but how to position the second column. When adjusting the browser size it al gets messed up.



#Column1

float: left;
position: relative;
top: -140px;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
left: 70px;
width: 280px;
min-height: 500px;
padding: 10px;


#Column2

float: left;
width: 800px;
background-color: #00FF00;



DIV positions graphically explained










share|improve this question
























  • alistapart.com/topics/topic/css

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 21:46













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first of all is there a good tutorial about positioning elements which really explains what's going on? I've read multiple but can't get a grip on it.



the specific problem I have is as follows:



I have a header div-element (in red) with underneath 2 columns(white and green). Normally with float:left; i can position the elements next to each-other. But now I want one (the white one) to move a bit over the header als shown.



with relative positioning with a negative top value I can get the white one at the right position but how to position the second column. When adjusting the browser size it al gets messed up.



#Column1

float: left;
position: relative;
top: -140px;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
left: 70px;
width: 280px;
min-height: 500px;
padding: 10px;


#Column2

float: left;
width: 800px;
background-color: #00FF00;



DIV positions graphically explained










share|improve this question
















first of all is there a good tutorial about positioning elements which really explains what's going on? I've read multiple but can't get a grip on it.



the specific problem I have is as follows:



I have a header div-element (in red) with underneath 2 columns(white and green). Normally with float:left; i can position the elements next to each-other. But now I want one (the white one) to move a bit over the header als shown.



with relative positioning with a negative top value I can get the white one at the right position but how to position the second column. When adjusting the browser size it al gets messed up.



#Column1

float: left;
position: relative;
top: -140px;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
left: 70px;
width: 280px;
min-height: 500px;
padding: 10px;


#Column2

float: left;
width: 800px;
background-color: #00FF00;



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    Jul 27 '12 at 21:46
















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Here is JSFiddle that demonstrates your layout without floats using position absolute.
In my experience position absolute is more flexible and made for this kind of layouts, especially when you want to dock elements using top, right, bottom and left.
There are circumstance where you need to fallback on using floats, but in this case it is not needed.



Use floats to float things around it and position absolute to dock things.



The HTML



<div id="Header">header</div>
<div id="Column1">Left</div>
<div id="Column2">Right</div>


The CSS



#Header 
background-color: red;
height: 200px;

#Column1
position: relative;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
top: -140px; left: 70px;
width: 280px;
min-height: 500px;

#Column2
position: absolute;
background-color: #00FF00;
left: 350px; top: 200px; right: 0;
min-height: 360px;



Update Remove display:none from the .more class in the JSFiddle and see that the containers are flexible as well.






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  • Yeah I would agree that position: absolute is good for "docking" elements, but there are definitely better ways of going about it.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:10











  • @Wex Sure! A CSS grid system is better. Why do you think floats are better than position absolute? Sure you can make it work with floats, but doesn't it feel a like a hack? Overflow: hidden :-)

    – Split Your Infinity
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:16











  • float is generally better because it allows for content to dynamically resize (As opposed to using position: absolute, which always requires you to set specific positions for each element). overflow: hidden is certainly not a hack.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:19












  • I know what overflow hidden does, but it isn't very semantic in my eyes? What does it tell you about my layout? That it is using floats? Or that it wants to 'hide' content.

    – Split Your Infinity
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:26












  • Semantic CSS? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:27


















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I'm just gonna spitball here:



HTML



<div id="red"></div>
<div id="white"></div>
<div id="green"></div>


CSS



#red 
width: 100%;
float: left;
height: 100px;
position: relative;
background-color: #f00;

#white
width: 20%;
float: left;
margin-left: 4%;
margin-top: -40px;
position: relative;
background-color: #fff;
height: 400px;

#green
width: 76%;
float: left;
position: relative;
background-color: #0f0;
height: 400px;



Does it work?






share|improve this answer























  • Ahah, confirmed, works: jsfiddle.net/nYyxA

    – wanovak
    Jul 27 '12 at 21:53











  • A couple unnecessary float and position declarations in there but not a bad way of doing it.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:12











  • I tried to do it correctly the first time without testing it :-) I did, but you're right, it's not perfect.

    – wanovak
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:14


















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You could just use a minus margin



http://jsfiddle.net/gAKAK/






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    This is kind of a complex request, so don't feel bad that you weren't able to figure it out. You shouldn't have to set the width of anything other than your sidebar for this solution; my solution relies on an uncommon use of overflow: hidden to achieve this.



    http://jsfiddle.net/Wexcode/uBQEu/



    HTML:



    <div id="header"></div>
    <div id="white"></div>
    <div id="green"></div>


    CSS:



    #header 
    background: red;
    height: 70px;
    border: 1px solid #000;
    #white
    background: #fff;
    float: left;
    margin: -30px 0 0 70px;
    width: 100px;
    height: 230px;
    border: 1px solid #000;
    #green
    background: green;
    overflow: hidden;
    height: 201px;
    border: 1px solid #000;
    border-top: 0;
    border-left: 0;





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    • A good article on why overflow: hidden; helps in this situation can be found here: colinaarts.com/articles/the-magic-of-overflow-hidden

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:06











    • Still doesn't tell me why floats are not a hack and the wrong tool in most cases. I have used floats to many times myself, before I realised that using position relative and absolute is so much easier in many cases. Even in flexible layouts.

      – Split Your Infinity
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:22











    • I don't know why you keep referring to float as a hack. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Using float seems to have saved the trouble of adding an arbitrary container.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:27










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    Here is JSFiddle that demonstrates your layout without floats using position absolute.
    In my experience position absolute is more flexible and made for this kind of layouts, especially when you want to dock elements using top, right, bottom and left.
    There are circumstance where you need to fallback on using floats, but in this case it is not needed.



    Use floats to float things around it and position absolute to dock things.



    The HTML



    <div id="Header">header</div>
    <div id="Column1">Left</div>
    <div id="Column2">Right</div>


    The CSS



    #Header 
    background-color: red;
    height: 200px;

    #Column1
    position: relative;
    background-color: #FFFFFF;
    top: -140px; left: 70px;
    width: 280px;
    min-height: 500px;

    #Column2
    position: absolute;
    background-color: #00FF00;
    left: 350px; top: 200px; right: 0;
    min-height: 360px;



    Update Remove display:none from the .more class in the JSFiddle and see that the containers are flexible as well.






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    • Yeah I would agree that position: absolute is good for "docking" elements, but there are definitely better ways of going about it.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:10











    • @Wex Sure! A CSS grid system is better. Why do you think floats are better than position absolute? Sure you can make it work with floats, but doesn't it feel a like a hack? Overflow: hidden :-)

      – Split Your Infinity
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:16











    • float is generally better because it allows for content to dynamically resize (As opposed to using position: absolute, which always requires you to set specific positions for each element). overflow: hidden is certainly not a hack.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:19












    • I know what overflow hidden does, but it isn't very semantic in my eyes? What does it tell you about my layout? That it is using floats? Or that it wants to 'hide' content.

      – Split Your Infinity
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:26












    • Semantic CSS? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:27















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    Here is JSFiddle that demonstrates your layout without floats using position absolute.
    In my experience position absolute is more flexible and made for this kind of layouts, especially when you want to dock elements using top, right, bottom and left.
    There are circumstance where you need to fallback on using floats, but in this case it is not needed.



    Use floats to float things around it and position absolute to dock things.



    The HTML



    <div id="Header">header</div>
    <div id="Column1">Left</div>
    <div id="Column2">Right</div>


    The CSS



    #Header 
    background-color: red;
    height: 200px;

    #Column1
    position: relative;
    background-color: #FFFFFF;
    top: -140px; left: 70px;
    width: 280px;
    min-height: 500px;

    #Column2
    position: absolute;
    background-color: #00FF00;
    left: 350px; top: 200px; right: 0;
    min-height: 360px;



    Update Remove display:none from the .more class in the JSFiddle and see that the containers are flexible as well.






    share|improve this answer

























    • Yeah I would agree that position: absolute is good for "docking" elements, but there are definitely better ways of going about it.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:10











    • @Wex Sure! A CSS grid system is better. Why do you think floats are better than position absolute? Sure you can make it work with floats, but doesn't it feel a like a hack? Overflow: hidden :-)

      – Split Your Infinity
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:16











    • float is generally better because it allows for content to dynamically resize (As opposed to using position: absolute, which always requires you to set specific positions for each element). overflow: hidden is certainly not a hack.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:19












    • I know what overflow hidden does, but it isn't very semantic in my eyes? What does it tell you about my layout? That it is using floats? Or that it wants to 'hide' content.

      – Split Your Infinity
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:26












    • Semantic CSS? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:27













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    Here is JSFiddle that demonstrates your layout without floats using position absolute.
    In my experience position absolute is more flexible and made for this kind of layouts, especially when you want to dock elements using top, right, bottom and left.
    There are circumstance where you need to fallback on using floats, but in this case it is not needed.



    Use floats to float things around it and position absolute to dock things.



    The HTML



    <div id="Header">header</div>
    <div id="Column1">Left</div>
    <div id="Column2">Right</div>


    The CSS



    #Header 
    background-color: red;
    height: 200px;

    #Column1
    position: relative;
    background-color: #FFFFFF;
    top: -140px; left: 70px;
    width: 280px;
    min-height: 500px;

    #Column2
    position: absolute;
    background-color: #00FF00;
    left: 350px; top: 200px; right: 0;
    min-height: 360px;



    Update Remove display:none from the .more class in the JSFiddle and see that the containers are flexible as well.






    share|improve this answer















    Here is JSFiddle that demonstrates your layout without floats using position absolute.
    In my experience position absolute is more flexible and made for this kind of layouts, especially when you want to dock elements using top, right, bottom and left.
    There are circumstance where you need to fallback on using floats, but in this case it is not needed.



    Use floats to float things around it and position absolute to dock things.



    The HTML



    <div id="Header">header</div>
    <div id="Column1">Left</div>
    <div id="Column2">Right</div>


    The CSS



    #Header 
    background-color: red;
    height: 200px;

    #Column1
    position: relative;
    background-color: #FFFFFF;
    top: -140px; left: 70px;
    width: 280px;
    min-height: 500px;

    #Column2
    position: absolute;
    background-color: #00FF00;
    left: 350px; top: 200px; right: 0;
    min-height: 360px;



    Update Remove display:none from the .more class in the JSFiddle and see that the containers are flexible as well.







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    • Yeah I would agree that position: absolute is good for "docking" elements, but there are definitely better ways of going about it.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:10











    • @Wex Sure! A CSS grid system is better. Why do you think floats are better than position absolute? Sure you can make it work with floats, but doesn't it feel a like a hack? Overflow: hidden :-)

      – Split Your Infinity
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:16











    • float is generally better because it allows for content to dynamically resize (As opposed to using position: absolute, which always requires you to set specific positions for each element). overflow: hidden is certainly not a hack.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:19












    • I know what overflow hidden does, but it isn't very semantic in my eyes? What does it tell you about my layout? That it is using floats? Or that it wants to 'hide' content.

      – Split Your Infinity
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:26












    • Semantic CSS? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:27

















    • Yeah I would agree that position: absolute is good for "docking" elements, but there are definitely better ways of going about it.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:10











    • @Wex Sure! A CSS grid system is better. Why do you think floats are better than position absolute? Sure you can make it work with floats, but doesn't it feel a like a hack? Overflow: hidden :-)

      – Split Your Infinity
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:16











    • float is generally better because it allows for content to dynamically resize (As opposed to using position: absolute, which always requires you to set specific positions for each element). overflow: hidden is certainly not a hack.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:19












    • I know what overflow hidden does, but it isn't very semantic in my eyes? What does it tell you about my layout? That it is using floats? Or that it wants to 'hide' content.

      – Split Your Infinity
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:26












    • Semantic CSS? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:27
















    Yeah I would agree that position: absolute is good for "docking" elements, but there are definitely better ways of going about it.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:10





    Yeah I would agree that position: absolute is good for "docking" elements, but there are definitely better ways of going about it.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:10













    @Wex Sure! A CSS grid system is better. Why do you think floats are better than position absolute? Sure you can make it work with floats, but doesn't it feel a like a hack? Overflow: hidden :-)

    – Split Your Infinity
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:16





    @Wex Sure! A CSS grid system is better. Why do you think floats are better than position absolute? Sure you can make it work with floats, but doesn't it feel a like a hack? Overflow: hidden :-)

    – Split Your Infinity
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:16













    float is generally better because it allows for content to dynamically resize (As opposed to using position: absolute, which always requires you to set specific positions for each element). overflow: hidden is certainly not a hack.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:19






    float is generally better because it allows for content to dynamically resize (As opposed to using position: absolute, which always requires you to set specific positions for each element). overflow: hidden is certainly not a hack.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:19














    I know what overflow hidden does, but it isn't very semantic in my eyes? What does it tell you about my layout? That it is using floats? Or that it wants to 'hide' content.

    – Split Your Infinity
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:26






    I know what overflow hidden does, but it isn't very semantic in my eyes? What does it tell you about my layout? That it is using floats? Or that it wants to 'hide' content.

    – Split Your Infinity
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:26














    Semantic CSS? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:27





    Semantic CSS? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:27













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    I'm just gonna spitball here:



    HTML



    <div id="red"></div>
    <div id="white"></div>
    <div id="green"></div>


    CSS



    #red 
    width: 100%;
    float: left;
    height: 100px;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #f00;

    #white
    width: 20%;
    float: left;
    margin-left: 4%;
    margin-top: -40px;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #fff;
    height: 400px;

    #green
    width: 76%;
    float: left;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #0f0;
    height: 400px;



    Does it work?






    share|improve this answer























    • Ahah, confirmed, works: jsfiddle.net/nYyxA

      – wanovak
      Jul 27 '12 at 21:53











    • A couple unnecessary float and position declarations in there but not a bad way of doing it.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:12











    • I tried to do it correctly the first time without testing it :-) I did, but you're right, it's not perfect.

      – wanovak
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:14















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    I'm just gonna spitball here:



    HTML



    <div id="red"></div>
    <div id="white"></div>
    <div id="green"></div>


    CSS



    #red 
    width: 100%;
    float: left;
    height: 100px;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #f00;

    #white
    width: 20%;
    float: left;
    margin-left: 4%;
    margin-top: -40px;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #fff;
    height: 400px;

    #green
    width: 76%;
    float: left;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #0f0;
    height: 400px;



    Does it work?






    share|improve this answer























    • Ahah, confirmed, works: jsfiddle.net/nYyxA

      – wanovak
      Jul 27 '12 at 21:53











    • A couple unnecessary float and position declarations in there but not a bad way of doing it.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:12











    • I tried to do it correctly the first time without testing it :-) I did, but you're right, it's not perfect.

      – wanovak
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:14













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    I'm just gonna spitball here:



    HTML



    <div id="red"></div>
    <div id="white"></div>
    <div id="green"></div>


    CSS



    #red 
    width: 100%;
    float: left;
    height: 100px;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #f00;

    #white
    width: 20%;
    float: left;
    margin-left: 4%;
    margin-top: -40px;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #fff;
    height: 400px;

    #green
    width: 76%;
    float: left;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #0f0;
    height: 400px;



    Does it work?






    share|improve this answer













    I'm just gonna spitball here:



    HTML



    <div id="red"></div>
    <div id="white"></div>
    <div id="green"></div>


    CSS



    #red 
    width: 100%;
    float: left;
    height: 100px;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #f00;

    #white
    width: 20%;
    float: left;
    margin-left: 4%;
    margin-top: -40px;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #fff;
    height: 400px;

    #green
    width: 76%;
    float: left;
    position: relative;
    background-color: #0f0;
    height: 400px;



    Does it work?







    share|improve this answer












    share|improve this answer



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    answered Jul 27 '12 at 21:51









    wanovakwanovak

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    • Ahah, confirmed, works: jsfiddle.net/nYyxA

      – wanovak
      Jul 27 '12 at 21:53











    • A couple unnecessary float and position declarations in there but not a bad way of doing it.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:12











    • I tried to do it correctly the first time without testing it :-) I did, but you're right, it's not perfect.

      – wanovak
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:14

















    • Ahah, confirmed, works: jsfiddle.net/nYyxA

      – wanovak
      Jul 27 '12 at 21:53











    • A couple unnecessary float and position declarations in there but not a bad way of doing it.

      – Wex
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:12











    • I tried to do it correctly the first time without testing it :-) I did, but you're right, it's not perfect.

      – wanovak
      Jul 27 '12 at 22:14
















    Ahah, confirmed, works: jsfiddle.net/nYyxA

    – wanovak
    Jul 27 '12 at 21:53





    Ahah, confirmed, works: jsfiddle.net/nYyxA

    – wanovak
    Jul 27 '12 at 21:53













    A couple unnecessary float and position declarations in there but not a bad way of doing it.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:12





    A couple unnecessary float and position declarations in there but not a bad way of doing it.

    – Wex
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:12













    I tried to do it correctly the first time without testing it :-) I did, but you're right, it's not perfect.

    – wanovak
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:14





    I tried to do it correctly the first time without testing it :-) I did, but you're right, it's not perfect.

    – wanovak
    Jul 27 '12 at 22:14











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    You could just use a minus margin



    http://jsfiddle.net/gAKAK/






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        You could just use a minus margin



        http://jsfiddle.net/gAKAK/






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        answered Jul 27 '12 at 21:54









        AndyAndy

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            This is kind of a complex request, so don't feel bad that you weren't able to figure it out. You shouldn't have to set the width of anything other than your sidebar for this solution; my solution relies on an uncommon use of overflow: hidden to achieve this.



            http://jsfiddle.net/Wexcode/uBQEu/



            HTML:



            <div id="header"></div>
            <div id="white"></div>
            <div id="green"></div>


            CSS:



            #header 
            background: red;
            height: 70px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            #white
            background: #fff;
            float: left;
            margin: -30px 0 0 70px;
            width: 100px;
            height: 230px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            #green
            background: green;
            overflow: hidden;
            height: 201px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            border-top: 0;
            border-left: 0;





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            • A good article on why overflow: hidden; helps in this situation can be found here: colinaarts.com/articles/the-magic-of-overflow-hidden

              – Wex
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:06











            • Still doesn't tell me why floats are not a hack and the wrong tool in most cases. I have used floats to many times myself, before I realised that using position relative and absolute is so much easier in many cases. Even in flexible layouts.

              – Split Your Infinity
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:22











            • I don't know why you keep referring to float as a hack. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Using float seems to have saved the trouble of adding an arbitrary container.

              – Wex
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:27















            0














            This is kind of a complex request, so don't feel bad that you weren't able to figure it out. You shouldn't have to set the width of anything other than your sidebar for this solution; my solution relies on an uncommon use of overflow: hidden to achieve this.



            http://jsfiddle.net/Wexcode/uBQEu/



            HTML:



            <div id="header"></div>
            <div id="white"></div>
            <div id="green"></div>


            CSS:



            #header 
            background: red;
            height: 70px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            #white
            background: #fff;
            float: left;
            margin: -30px 0 0 70px;
            width: 100px;
            height: 230px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            #green
            background: green;
            overflow: hidden;
            height: 201px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            border-top: 0;
            border-left: 0;





            share|improve this answer























            • A good article on why overflow: hidden; helps in this situation can be found here: colinaarts.com/articles/the-magic-of-overflow-hidden

              – Wex
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:06











            • Still doesn't tell me why floats are not a hack and the wrong tool in most cases. I have used floats to many times myself, before I realised that using position relative and absolute is so much easier in many cases. Even in flexible layouts.

              – Split Your Infinity
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:22











            • I don't know why you keep referring to float as a hack. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Using float seems to have saved the trouble of adding an arbitrary container.

              – Wex
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:27













            0












            0








            0







            This is kind of a complex request, so don't feel bad that you weren't able to figure it out. You shouldn't have to set the width of anything other than your sidebar for this solution; my solution relies on an uncommon use of overflow: hidden to achieve this.



            http://jsfiddle.net/Wexcode/uBQEu/



            HTML:



            <div id="header"></div>
            <div id="white"></div>
            <div id="green"></div>


            CSS:



            #header 
            background: red;
            height: 70px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            #white
            background: #fff;
            float: left;
            margin: -30px 0 0 70px;
            width: 100px;
            height: 230px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            #green
            background: green;
            overflow: hidden;
            height: 201px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            border-top: 0;
            border-left: 0;





            share|improve this answer













            This is kind of a complex request, so don't feel bad that you weren't able to figure it out. You shouldn't have to set the width of anything other than your sidebar for this solution; my solution relies on an uncommon use of overflow: hidden to achieve this.



            http://jsfiddle.net/Wexcode/uBQEu/



            HTML:



            <div id="header"></div>
            <div id="white"></div>
            <div id="green"></div>


            CSS:



            #header 
            background: red;
            height: 70px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            #white
            background: #fff;
            float: left;
            margin: -30px 0 0 70px;
            width: 100px;
            height: 230px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            #green
            background: green;
            overflow: hidden;
            height: 201px;
            border: 1px solid #000;
            border-top: 0;
            border-left: 0;






            share|improve this answer












            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer










            answered Jul 27 '12 at 22:03









            WexWex

            11.3k84789




            11.3k84789












            • A good article on why overflow: hidden; helps in this situation can be found here: colinaarts.com/articles/the-magic-of-overflow-hidden

              – Wex
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:06











            • Still doesn't tell me why floats are not a hack and the wrong tool in most cases. I have used floats to many times myself, before I realised that using position relative and absolute is so much easier in many cases. Even in flexible layouts.

              – Split Your Infinity
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:22











            • I don't know why you keep referring to float as a hack. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Using float seems to have saved the trouble of adding an arbitrary container.

              – Wex
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:27

















            • A good article on why overflow: hidden; helps in this situation can be found here: colinaarts.com/articles/the-magic-of-overflow-hidden

              – Wex
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:06











            • Still doesn't tell me why floats are not a hack and the wrong tool in most cases. I have used floats to many times myself, before I realised that using position relative and absolute is so much easier in many cases. Even in flexible layouts.

              – Split Your Infinity
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:22











            • I don't know why you keep referring to float as a hack. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Using float seems to have saved the trouble of adding an arbitrary container.

              – Wex
              Jul 27 '12 at 22:27
















            A good article on why overflow: hidden; helps in this situation can be found here: colinaarts.com/articles/the-magic-of-overflow-hidden

            – Wex
            Jul 27 '12 at 22:06





            A good article on why overflow: hidden; helps in this situation can be found here: colinaarts.com/articles/the-magic-of-overflow-hidden

            – Wex
            Jul 27 '12 at 22:06













            Still doesn't tell me why floats are not a hack and the wrong tool in most cases. I have used floats to many times myself, before I realised that using position relative and absolute is so much easier in many cases. Even in flexible layouts.

            – Split Your Infinity
            Jul 27 '12 at 22:22





            Still doesn't tell me why floats are not a hack and the wrong tool in most cases. I have used floats to many times myself, before I realised that using position relative and absolute is so much easier in many cases. Even in flexible layouts.

            – Split Your Infinity
            Jul 27 '12 at 22:22













            I don't know why you keep referring to float as a hack. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Using float seems to have saved the trouble of adding an arbitrary container.

            – Wex
            Jul 27 '12 at 22:27





            I don't know why you keep referring to float as a hack. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Using float seems to have saved the trouble of adding an arbitrary container.

            – Wex
            Jul 27 '12 at 22:27

















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